Comparison: Best 8 Piece Patio Set With Umbrella (Updated | Nov 9th)
Looking to upgrade your outdoor space with comfort and style? An 8-piece patio set with an umbrella is the perfect combo of functionality and flair—ideal for everything from lazy weekend lounging to hosting lively dinner parties under the sun. But with so many options out there, how do you find the one that truly delivers? We’ve done the research, tested the durability, and compared the designs so you don’t have to. Let’s dive into the top contenders that stand out for quality, comfort, and value.
Editor’s Choice
Best for a specific purpose
- Best for double-sided shade: SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella
- Best for wood-texture elegance: SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella
- Best for spacious table: SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella
- Best for aluminum leg durability: Patio Kingdom 9-Piece Outdoor Dining Set for 8
- Best for high-back comfort: Sophia & William Patio Set with Umbrella 8 Pieces Outdoor Dining Set for 6 with 13ft Double-Sided Patio Umbrella Beige
- Best for teak-style luxury: SEEHILL 9 Pieces Patio Dining Set for 8
- Best for acacia wood durability: S AFSTAR Patio Dining Set for 8 with Umbrella Hole
- Best for hips material strength: YEFU HIPS Patio Table Set: 10 Piece Outdoor Table and Chairs Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole – Black Modern Plastic Dining Sets 8 Person for Outside Deck with Metal Aluminum Frame
- Best for led solar shade: Tangkula 11 Pieces Patio Dining Set with 15ft Double-Sided LED Patio Umbrella (Base Included)
- Best for hand-woven rattan: 9 Pieces Patio Dining Set
Product Comparison: Best 8 Piece Patio Set With Umbrella
Double-Sided Shade
SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella, Outdoor HDPE Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole Cut-Out Table and 6 Chairs, Coffee（Umbreall Base not Included）
SERWALL
- 【8-Piece Dining Chair Set】This patio dining set contains 1 extended dining table and 6 ergonomic dining chairs and 1 double side 15FT patio umbrella. This modern outdoor dining tabe set features aesthetic appeal that seamlessly blends with various outdoor settings, adding charm and elegance to your patio or garden, which is perfect for your family events.（Umbrella base not included）
- 【Spacious Dining Table with Umbrella hole】The patio dining table is designed with an umbrella hole, allowing you to add shade during sunny days. The outdoor table measures 66.9″D*32.3″W*29.1″H, which can holds up to 220LBS, providing enough room to accommodate meals, drinks, and table decor.
- 【Comfortable Dining Chairs】This patio dining chair is perfect for your family gathering. Featuring its armrest and slatted seat, adding extra comfort to the chairs. Each chair measures 23.4″D*23.6″W*33.6″H, its weight capacity is up to 330LBS.
- 【15FT Double-Sided Patio Umbrella】This extra-large shade blocks sunlight effectively while its 3 top vents improve airflow, reducing heat buildup and enhancing stability in windy conditions.
- 【Easy Installation】This outdoor dining table set is packaged in several different packages and may arrive on different days. Partial installation required. Each conversation patio furniture set includes detailed instructions and all the necessary hardware, enabling you to set up your dining area quickly and hassle-free. Instructional video is provided on our website. (ATTN: Do Not Screw The Screws Tightly Before Finishing).
- 【All Weather Use】SERWALL patio dining sets are built to withstand the elements and provide long-lasting performance. The sturdy frames and high-density polyethylene materials ensure durability and reliability, allowing you to enjoy outdoor dining for years to come.
- 【Low Maintenance】HDPE dining table sets required low maintenance. Unlike the Steel dining sets may require rust prevention, SERWALL patio dining table and chairs are easy to clean with just soap and water, requiring minimal effort to keep them looking fresh.
- 【Customized Combinations】Whether hosting guests or dining with family, this versatile set adapts to your needs. Choose individual chairs for a custom setup.
- 【Customer Service】Your satisfaction is our top priority. We are committed to providing excellent customer service and support. Should you have any questions or concerns, our dedicated customer service team is ready to assist you .
- 【Indoor & Outdoor Use】Different from the normal HDPE dining sets, our patio dining table and chairs are designed with wood texture. The classic appearance makes these dining table sets more usable for indoor or outdoor.
Wood-Texture Elegance
SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella, Outdoor HDPE Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole Cut-Out Table and 6 Chairs, Black（Umbreall Base not Included）
SERWALL
- 【8-Piece Dining Chair Set】This patio dining set contains 1 extended dining table and 6 ergonomic dining chairs and 1 double side 15FT patio umbrella. This modern outdoor dining tabe set features aesthetic appeal that seamlessly blends with various outdoor settings, adding charm and elegance to your patio or garden, which is perfect for your family events.（Umbrella base not included）
- 【Spacious Dining Table with Umbrella hole】The patio dining table is designed with an umbrella hole, allowing you to add shade during sunny days. The outdoor table measures 66.9″D*32.3″W*29.1″H, which can holds up to 220LBS, providing enough room to accommodate meals, drinks, and table decor.
- 【Comfortable Dining Chairs】This patio dining chair is perfect for your family gathering. Featuring its armrest and slatted seat, adding extra comfort to the chairs. Each chair measures 23.4″D*23.6″W*33.6″H, its weight capacity is up to 330LBS.
- 【15FT Double-Sided Patio Umbrella】This extra-large shade blocks sunlight effectively while its 3 top vents improve airflow, reducing heat buildup and enhancing stability in windy conditions.
- 【Easy Installation】This outdoor dining table set is packaged in several different packages and may arrive on different days. Partial installation required. Each conversation patio furniture set includes detailed instructions and all the necessary hardware, enabling you to set up your dining area quickly and hassle-free. Instructional video is provided on our website. (ATTN: Do Not Screw The Screws Tightly Before Finishing).
- 【All Weather Use】SERWALL patio dining sets are built to withstand the elements and provide long-lasting performance. The sturdy frames and high-density polyethylene materials ensure durability and reliability, allowing you to enjoy outdoor dining for years to come.
- 【Low Maintenance】HDPE dining table sets required low maintenance. Unlike the Steel dining sets may require rust prevention, SERWALL patio dining table and chairs are easy to clean with just soap and water, requiring minimal effort to keep them looking fresh.
- 【Customized Combinations】Whether hosting guests or dining with family, this versatile set adapts to your needs. Choose individual chairs for a custom setup.
- 【Customer Service】Your satisfaction is our top priority. We are committed to providing excellent customer service and support. Should you have any questions or concerns, our dedicated customer service team is ready to assist you .
- 【Indoor & Outdoor Use】Different from the normal HDPE dining sets, our patio dining table and chairs are designed with wood texture. The classic appearance makes these dining table sets more usable for indoor or outdoor.
Spacious Table
SERWALL 8-Piece Patio Dining Sets with 15FT Double Side Patio Umbrella, Outdoor HDPE Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole Cut-Out Table and 6 Chairs, Gray（Umbreall Base not Included）
SERWALL
- 【8-Piece Dining Chair Set】This patio dining set contains 1 extended dining table and 6 ergonomic dining chairs and 1 double side 15FT patio umbrella. This modern outdoor dining tabe set features aesthetic appeal that seamlessly blends with various outdoor settings, adding charm and elegance to your patio or garden, which is perfect for your family events.（Umbrella base not included）
- 【Spacious Dining Table with Umbrella hole】The patio dining table is designed with an umbrella hole, allowing you to add shade during sunny days. The outdoor table measures 66.9″D*32.3″W*29.1″H, which can holds up to 220LBS, providing enough room to accommodate meals, drinks, and table decor.
- 【Comfortable Dining Chairs】This patio dining chair is perfect for your family gathering. Featuring its armrest and slatted seat, adding extra comfort to the chairs. Each chair measures 23.4″D*23.6″W*33.6″H, its weight capacity is up to 330LBS.
- 【15FT Double-Sided Patio Umbrella】This extra-large shade blocks sunlight effectively while its 3 top vents improve airflow, reducing heat buildup and enhancing stability in windy conditions.
- 【Easy Installation】This outdoor dining table set is packaged in several different packages and may arrive on different days. Partial installation required. Each conversation patio furniture set includes detailed instructions and all the necessary hardware, enabling you to set up your dining area quickly and hassle-free. Instructional video is provided on our website. (ATTN: Do Not Screw The Screws Tightly Before Finishing).
- 【All Weather Use】SERWALL patio dining sets are built to withstand the elements and provide long-lasting performance. The sturdy frames and high-density polyethylene materials ensure durability and reliability, allowing you to enjoy outdoor dining for years to come.
- 【Low Maintenance】HDPE dining table sets required low maintenance. Unlike the Steel dining sets may require rust prevention, SERWALL patio dining table and chairs are easy to clean with just soap and water, requiring minimal effort to keep them looking fresh.
- 【Customized Combinations】Whether hosting guests or dining with family, this versatile set adapts to your needs. Choose individual chairs for a custom setup.
- 【Customer Service】Your satisfaction is our top priority. We are committed to providing excellent customer service and support. Should you have any questions or concerns, our dedicated customer service team is ready to assist you .
- 【Indoor & Outdoor Use】Different from the normal HDPE dining sets, our patio dining table and chairs are designed with wood texture. The classic appearance makes these dining table sets more usable for indoor or outdoor.
Aluminum Leg Durability
Patio Kingdom 9-Piece Outdoor Dining Set for 8, 75.2” HDPE Table with Umbrella Hole & Chairs, Weather-Resistant Patio Furniture for Lawn, Yard, Balcony, Deck (Black)
Patio Kingdom
- Delivered in 6 Boxes for Safe Shipping:This 9-piece patio dining set ships in 6 boxes: 2 armchairs ship individually, 6 armless chairs are packed in 3 boxes (2 per box), and the rectangular table ships separately. Packages may arrive on different days depending on carrier handling.
- Outdoor Dining, Rain or Shine: Built for the outdoors, Patio Kingdom 9-piece HDPE patio dining set features a weather-resistant 75.2″ × 29.5″ rectangular table with durable aluminum legs and 8 matching chairs. Perfect for patios, gardens, and decks, it withstands fading, cracking, and moisture all year round.
- Extended Tabletop with Umbrella Hole: Enjoy more space with a 75.2-inch outdoor dining table that comfortably seats 6–8 people. A built-in 2” umbrella hole provides convenient shade when paired with a patio umbrella.
- Durable HDPE Tabletop with Aluminum Legs: Crafted with a fade- and crack-resistant HDPE tabletop and sturdy aluminum legs, this outdoor dining set offers long-lasting durability without sealing or staining. Its natural woodgrain texture adds warmth and charm to any outdoor space.
- Low Maintenance, All-Season Style: No painting, no stress—just clean with soap and water. This outdoor patio dining set maintains its beauty with minimal effort, ideal for families, rentals, or busy lifestyles.
- Professional Support You Can Rely On: We stand firmly behind the quality of our patio furniture. If you have any questions about delivery, assembly, or use, our responsive customer support team is here to assist you—before and after your purchase.
High-Back Comfort
Sophia & William Patio Set with Umbrella 8 Pieces Outdoor Dining Set for 6 with 13ft Double-Sided Patio Umbrella Beige, 6 x Swivel Patio Chairs, 1 Metal Table for Lawn Garden
Sophia & William
- High Back Design: The ergonomic back design conforms to the most comfortable position for your back, while the half-packed seat front provides support for both legs when seated. The slight backward lean offers more comfort than traditional metal chairs, providing easeful lumbar support during long periods of sitting.（umbrella base is not included)
- Upgraded Outdoor Fabric: This chair features a premium Outdoor textilene fabric, renowned for its exceptional durability and resistance to fading. Crafted to withstand the test of time, this fabric ensures long-lasting comfort and breathability, while remaining easy to clean
- Umbrella Fabric – Our 13ft extra large patio umbrella features durable 100% polyester fabric, which is water repellent and breathable. The umbrella canopy is fade-resistant and provides up to 99% UV protection. It is also easy to clean if needed
- Extra-large Shade Patio Umbrellas. Grade your outdoor space with its impressive dimensions of 13′ x 6.5′, this rectangular umbrella provides an expansive shading area that is perfect for your outdoor furniture set or dining set. Whether you’re hosting a backyard barbecue or simply relaxing by the swimming pool, this umbrella is a fantastic addition to your outdoor oasis
- E-coating Technology: Our furniture is coated with advanced E-coating technology, ensuring superior weather resistance and a longer lifespan. The set includes a 6-person dining table paired with swivel chairs, making it perfect for a family of four. Enjoy the outdoors with this durable and stylish set that’s designed to last
Teak-Style Luxury
SEEHILL 9 Pieces Patio Dining Set for 8, Outdoor Aluminum Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole, Modern All-Weather Outdoor Patio Table Sets with 8 Chairs and Table for Deck Garden Poolside, Teak
SEEHILL
- Teak 9-Piece Patio Dining Set: This teak patio dining set includes an extra-large 84.6″ x 38″ aluminum dining table with a 2.2″ umbrella hole and eight ergonomically designed chairs, offering generous space for family dinners, weekend brunches, or outdoor celebrations. Perfect for your patio, garden, or poolside, it provides the ideal setting for elegant and spacious outdoor entertaining.
- Durable & All-Weather Construction: Engineered with premium rust-proof aluminum and finished with a teak-style powder coating, this set is built to withstand harsh weather. It’s waterproof, UV-resistant, and rustproof—capable of standing up to rainstorms, strong sun, and coastal moisture. With its solid construction and minimal maintenance needs, it’s a reliable choice for year-round outdoor enjoyment.
- Comfortable & Ergonomic Design: Designed for long-lasting comfort, each chair features a supportive backrest and 2.4″ thick high-resilience foam cushion for a soft yet durable seat. The chairs support up to 275 lbs each, and the wide dining table holds up to 200 lbs. Adjustable feet beneath the table ensure a stable dining experience, even on uneven deck surfaces, grass, or stone pavers.
- Easy Assembly & Multiple Packages: This 9-piece teak outdoor dining set ships in three well-packaged cartons, which may arrive at different times. Each box contains detailed, step-by-step instructions and all labeled hardware for easy setup. The smooth, powder-coated surfaces are stain-resistant and easy to clean with a damp cloth, making post-meal cleanup quick and hassle-free. (Tip: Please Do Not Tighten Screws Until Assembly Is Complete.)
- Versatile & Stylish Outdoor Solution: Blending a clean modern frame with the warmth of teak tones, this outdoor dining set suits a range of exterior styles—from coastal and contemporary to traditional backyard spaces. Whether you’re enjoying sunset dinners, hosting birthdays, or simply sipping coffee in the sun, this set brings lasting style and function to any outdoor environment.
Acacia Wood Durability
S AFSTAR Patio Dining Set for 8 with Umbrella Hole, 75”x36” Acacia Wooden Table & PE Rattan Chairs for Deck, Backyard
S AFSTAR
- [Outstanding Durability]: Constructed from acacia wood and mix brown PE rattan, this set offers both strength and timeless natural beauty. To maintain the appearance and durability of your acacia wood outdoor dining set, we suggest applying a protective wood oil on a regular basis.
- [Reinforced Umbrella Hole]: Equipped with a 1.96” umbrella hole reinforced with a wood block, this acacia table is ready to accommodate your favorite umbrella (not included) for shade on sunny days. Transition effortlessly from day to night dining under the stars with this versatile and practical feature.
- [Cozy Rattan Armchairs]: Indulge in comfortable dining with the ergonomic backrest and soft cushion of this patio wicker chairs set. The removable and washable cushion covers offer easy maintenance, ensuring a hassle-free dining experience. Besides, the adjustable feet pads makes it easy to use on uneven ground.
- [Easy Storage]: Featuring a space-saving design, these PE rattan chairs offer two practical options for maximizing your outdoor area. Tuck 6 chairs under the table for a compact and convenient solution. Enjoy versatility and efficiency with these patio armchairs, perfect for any outdoor setting.
- [Versatile Use]: Perfect for backyard gatherings, poolside lounging, or patio dining, this set provides ample seating for your outdoor entertaining needs. Enjoy al fresco meals and relaxing moments with family and friends surrounded by this stylish and functional outdoor furniture set.
HIPS Material Strength
YEFU HIPS Patio Table Set: 10 Piece Outdoor Table and Chairs Dining Furniture Set with Umbrella Hole – Black Modern Plastic Dining Sets 8 Person for Outside Deck with Metal Aluminum Frame
YEFU
- Easy Assembly and 85% Pre-Assembled Outdoor Table and Chairs: YEFU patio dining sets have all necessary tools (allen wrench, 304 stainless steel screws) and clear installation instructions. 85% pre assembed, each table and chair require only 1 person, 10 mins to complete, allowing you to quickly set up your dining area, decorate the patio, and enjoy the fun of outdoor dining
- Upgrade From HDPE to HIPS Material to Service Outdoor Condition Better: YEFU outdoor dining set for 8 is made of upgraded HIPS material which is harder than HDPE and more suitable for making patio table and chairs. HIPS make it not deform and maintain shape in cold and humid environments. It can withstand harsh weather conditions such as UV rays, rain, and wind. The outdoor dining table and chairs do not require special storage when placed outdoors and is suitable for patio, lawn, garden, porch, backyard, deck, pool, balcony
- Low Maintenance All Weather Outdoor Patio Dining Sets – YEFU patio dining set for 8 is weather resistance, will not fade, scratch resistant, stain resistant, and has low maintenance costs for long-time use and is suitable for both indoor and outdoor famliy dinner, gathering and party. Just rinse with water before use
- Durable Table with Aluminum Frame, Adjustable Feet, Umbrella Hole: YEFU dining table features a coated aluminum frame under the table top that enhances stability and durability which make it maintain shape well after long-time use. YEFU table of the outdoor dining sets is specially designed with umbrella holes, which can be used with a umbrella and allows you to have a pleasant meal in the shade. Table Top Size：67″x31″x30″, Weight Capacity: 300 lbs, for 8 person
- Comfortable and Luxury Designed Chairs with Real Wood Grain Texture: YEFU dining chairs is luxury designed with urved armrest and backrest, provide your arm and back real relax and comfort. There are also no nails on the seat plate, ensuring the safety of your clothing. Oversized Chair Size: 22″x24“x37″, Weight Capacity: 350 lbs
LED Solar Shade
Tangkula 11 Pieces Patio Dining Set with 15ft Double-Sided LED Patio Umbrella (Base Included), Outdoor Rattan Furniture Set with 8 Stackable Chairs, Acacia Wood Dining Table and Umbrella (Coffee)
Tangkula
- Durability Meets Design: This patio dining set features fade-resistant PE rattan, solid acacia wood, robust umbrella fabric and metal support, which ensure longevity, meaning more memorable outdoor moments year after year. These materials also bring sophisticated design.
- 8 Stackable Patio Chairs: With ergonomic design and soft cushions for ultimate comfort, these stackable patio armchairs are a space-saving solution when not in use. They can be neatly stacked and stored away, freeing up space in your outdoor environment.
- Rectangular Dining Table: This 71” x 35” rectangular dining table provides plentiful space for your gourmet spreads, beverages and favorite decorations, ideal for family gatherings, BBQs or quiet mornings with a book and coffee. The acacia wood tabletop is easy to clean.
- Expansive Shade Coverage: With a length of 15ft, this double-sided patio umbrella provides ample shade for a comfortable dining environment. The umbrella base ensures stability, making it a reliable addition to your outdoors. Moreover, the hand-crank mechanism allows you to easily open or close the umbrella without effort.
- Solar-powered Illumination: As the sun sets, your outdoor ambiance turns magical with solar-powered lights delicately integrated into the patio umbrella. Offering a soft, ambient glow, these LED lights create the perfect mood for serene evenings under the stars. There are 4 LED lights on each rib.
- If hardware is missing, we can reship new part to you. Thanks for your understanding.
Hand-Woven Rattan
9 Pieces Patio Dining Set, 8 x Woven Rattan Chairs with Waterproof Cushion, 83″ Rectangular Metal Dining Table with Umbrella Hole, Outdoor Table and Chairs Set for Backyard Lawn and Deck, Beige
SUNSHINE VALLEY
- PATIO DINING SET FOR 8：This patio dining set includes 8 x fixed chairs and 1 x 83″ Rectangular metal table with umbrella hole. Ideal for your backyard, garden, yard, lawn and deck, providing a relaxing outdoor dining or gathering place for family and friends
- MODERN HAND-WOVEN RATTAN: Our outdoor chairs are made of upgraded hand-woven PE rope rattan that is both stylish and durable. This weather-resistant rattan not only adds visual appeal, but also ensures long-lasting use. The dining chairs feature a 23.4″ wide design and can hold up to 300 lbs
- ALL-WEATHER FOR OUTDOOR: The cushion covers are made with CUSHION PRO technology, which is stain, water and oil resistant and easy to maintain. The L-shaped zipper design make it easily removable for cleaning, suitable for outdoor use
- AGING & RUST RESISTANCE: SUNSHINE VALLEY outdoor table and chairs are machined from high-performance powder-coated and E-coated steel. It provides long-term outdoor protection against rust, scratches and rain
- Easy Assembly & Customer Service: Our patio dining set is easy to assemble with instructions and tools provided. If you have any questions please let us know, we will deal with you immediately
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Buying Guide
FAQs
What should I prioritize when choosing an 8‑piece patio set with an umbrella?
Look first at the table material and its resistance to weather; HDPE, HIPS, and teak‑styled aluminum each offer different durability levels. Next, consider chair comfort and weight capacity, especially if you have heavier users. Finally, verify the umbrella size and whether a base is included, as a larger umbrella provides better shade but may need a sturdy base.
How does the SERWALL set compare to the Patio Kingdom set in terms of durability?
SERWALL uses a combination of metal frames and a 15‑ft double‑sided umbrella, but the umbrella base is not included, which may affect stability. Patio Kingdom’s table is made of HDPE with aluminum legs, offering fade‑ and crack‑resistance and a built‑in umbrella hole. Overall, Patio Kingdom tends to be more low‑maintenance, while SERWALL provides a larger shade area if you add a proper base.
Is the larger 15‑ft umbrella worth the extra cost compared to a 13‑ft model?
A 15‑ft umbrella covers a wider dining area, reducing the need to reposition chairs for shade, which is ideal for larger families or gatherings. However, the larger canopy is heavier and may require a more robust base, adding to the overall expense. If your patio space is limited, a 13‑ft umbrella may provide sufficient coverage with easier handling.
What are the key material differences between the SEEHILL teak‑style set and the YEFU HIPS set?
SEEHILL features a rust‑proof aluminum frame with a teak‑style powder coating, giving a warm wood look while staying metal‑strong. YEFU uses HIPS plastic, which is harder than HDPE and resists deformation in extreme temperatures, but it lacks the natural wood aesthetic. Choose SEEHILL for a classic look and YEFU for a lightweight, low‑maintenance option.
How important is the umbrella hole in the table design?
An umbrella hole allows you to place a shade canopy directly over the table, eliminating the need for a freestanding pole that can obstruct seating. Sets like the SERWALL and Patio Kingdom include this feature, making shade integration seamless. If you prefer a separate umbrella stand, the hole is less critical but still adds flexibility.
Do any of these sets include a base for the umbrella, and why does that matter?
Most listed sets, including SERWALL and Sophia & William, do not include an umbrella base, meaning you must purchase one separately to ensure stability, especially in windy conditions. The Tangkula set provides a base with its double‑sided LED umbrella, simplifying setup. A proper base prevents tipping and prolongs the life of both umbrella and furniture.
Which set offers the best value for a family of six looking for comfort and style?
The SERWALL set balances a spacious 15‑ft umbrella, ergonomic chairs with armrests, and a sturdy table at a competitive price, making it a strong value choice. The Sophia & William set adds premium textilene fabric and a large 13‑ft umbrella but may cost more due to higher‑end materials. Consider your budget and whether you prioritize extra comfort features over raw price.
How easy is assembly for these patio sets, and what should I expect during setup?
Most sets arrive in multiple boxes and require partial assembly; SERWALL and YEFU provide detailed instructions and even video guides, with YEFU being 85% pre‑assembled for quick setup. The SEEHILL and Tangkula sets also include step‑by‑step manuals, but you’ll need to tighten screws only after all pieces are in place. Expect to spend 30‑60 minutes for a typical 8‑piece set, depending on your experience.